Crawdaunt is a great HM slave in the Pokemon game series. The game severely lacks good water pokemon, but that just might be the franchise all together. In generation 1, as a small child, the concept of an "HM slave" never occurred to me. Pokémon Yellow. Answers. 3DS - 3007 - 8991 - 4413 (VM/PM me to add you) . Gen 5 actually requires less HM’s than most games right? Like cut is only required for the dream yard, I think you only need to surf a few times, same with strength, and waterfall I believe you need too. The two cover every HM. Beyond that, I think you're clear, but HMs are a little more required in HG/SS. This is the perfect version of the HM system. ago. . In Pokemon Black and White, Cut is the only HM move required to complete the main storyline, and even then it does not require frequent use. Like for example the only pokemon I can teach cut right now after 1st gym is my starter and that move is crap, I don't want to lock a move slot just for that. Bibarel. 5. Mew. Skarmory: Rock Smash, Fly, Defog, Cut Swampert: Waterfall, Surf, Strength, Rock Climb Azumarill: Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, Surf135 votes, 75 comments. In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. Hell Bell - Cures status effects from the whole team. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a. . The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. What pokemon are the best hm slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Gyarados is also great. Add a Comment. Tbf they're all good for playthroughs in their own way. Cheats. RogueLapras. The Japanese name of Cut, いあいぎり Iai Cut, refers to iaido, a. Game Freak removed HMs in gen 7 and replaced them with PokéRides. I try to balance the HMs and TMs on my team. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. Garchomp. Ludicolo can learn six of them - Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. with Simple, he gets +2 Defense from Defense Curl, +4 Sp def Amnesia, +4. False swipe - lowers pokemon 1 hp does kill it. No matter what Pokémon I have in my party I always like to have all HM's on me at once so that I'm not restricted in any way during gameplay. Both of these were thankfully fixed in Gen 2. An HM slave, then, is a term for a pokemon that is not used for battle but knows one or more of these moves, such that the battle performance of your other 5. You either have a nickname planned from the moment you see it or spend two hours ruminating because you don’t wanna ruin such an amazing Pokémon with such a shitty name. Riding Pokémon is somewhat a theme in Alola so I wouldn't be surprised if HM moves returned in gen 8. To get them in B/W before the E4, you'd presumably need. Yawn - Sleeps 100% but in 2 turns. The function of HMs remains the same. Druddigon - HM Surf - HM Cut - HM Strength. Move filters. Pokemon Black Version. Right now I've got Strength and Surf on a Herdier and I have a pidove with fly. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. The way Hidden Machines work now has seen a huge change. Move. I would never use one as a slave. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. Also used for moving obstacles like boulders. League Bosses Gen 1-9 Community Tier List (Day 1)(FRLG)(Brock, Misty, Lt. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). Cheats. Otherwise, none are needed to get through Victory Road. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. Flamethrower Thunder Punch. I usually use a Lickitung for my HM slave. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. Questions. Rock Smash. 7. Ideally I'll get my second Pokemon either before or just after the 1st gym, and my final Pokemon somewhere between the 5th and 7th gyms. If Secret Power is used in a building in Generation III, it will display the animation of Strength. 1K votes, 41 comments. Starting from Generation II, items can be held by Pokémon, allowing indirect trading of holdable items. In-game name: Daniel. Go with the classic HM slaves, Arceus and Rayquaza. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. Ability Capsule. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. Japan: February 27th 1996 (Red/Green) Japan: October 15th 1996 (Blue). 4M subscribers in the pokemon community. Pokémon Blue. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to Whirlpool. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Generation IX. From Generations 1 to 3, a Pokémon which knew the HM "Cut" could cut down Tall Grass. Non-battle moves Moves that can be used in the field, outside of battle. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. ORAS: slakoth- cut, rock smash, strength and yawn (ultimately becoming my catching pokemon along with HM slave) And magikarp/gyarados- surf, waterfall and dive. Thanks for posting, Trainer! If you want more Pokémon, why not check out our Official Discord Server for active trades, giveaways, or just a place to talk about pokemon. Annoyingly, once you get to Kanto you will need at least one HM slave in your party for a few of the gyms, as the entrance to Vermilion Gym is blocked by a cuttable tree, and reaching the volcano where Blaine's gym was relocated requires surf. Also, anyone know if I can get a friend code and trade with someone over wi-fi for something that isn't in the Unova Dex. HM slaves might be helpful for some people, but I like to play differently. Outside of battle Main article: Movable boulder → Gallery Trivia. 5 Strength. The HM slave. creativeme (Topic Creator) 12 years ago #3. Best answer. Tropius: Cut, Fly, Rock Smash, Flash Bibarel: Rock Climb, Whirlpool, Strength, Surf/Waterfall. If a Pokémon learns a new move while in Pokémon Day Care, an HM move can be replaced if it is at the top of the list; however, in Generation I, the Pokémon Day Care will not accept Pokémon that know HM moves. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. but I found that the best pokemon to be a HM slave is a Golduck. (82/151)(54,30%)Effects. Tempo Owner Karma: 24 Offline Gender:. In Black 2 and White 2, if a Pokémon in the player's party knows the move Rock Smash when they talk to one of the Workers in Clay Tunnel, they can help clear a section of. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. TM & HM Attacks. Obviously, Mew is the best HM slave, if you use a gameshark or the Catch Mew glitch. However, I can’t deny the fact that Haxorus is an objectively better Pokémon than Salamence. Notify me about new: Guides. Perhaps they could even switch it up so that every type in the game has some kind of secret power. Capable of learning cut, surf, strength, rock smash, and rock climb, this otherwise useless Pokémon makes for a relatively good HM slave. Log in to add games to your lists. Wishcash was a solid HM slave when it was introduced in Gen III, and that use carries over here. The abilities of Skarmory are Keen Eye and Sturdy EV yield. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. . Basically, unless you want to clog your Pokemon with these shit attacks, you have to carry an HM slave which means you only get five "battling" Pokemon, which is also an annoyance. Questions. I think corphish can also learn cut too. He can learn Cut, Strength, Fly, and Rock Smash. It takes 5 seconds for it to feel pain when under attack. Charmeleon - Generation 1 learnset. . . Wooper can learn Waterfall, Surf, Whirlpool, and Flash. Hey all, I haven't seen a discussion talking about what pokemon are the best HM slaves for Gen 5. And a. Hidden Machines, or HMs, are items that allow a Pokémon to learn a certain move. It is 1. When I started playing Pearl, i distributed the important HMs to ALL the pokemon in my party, i. Moderator Joined Jun. Basically, get one of the 3HMers and something else. TM # Move. Simple as that, just post about your best or most common HM slaves you used or are currently using. Flash is not really needed in Gen 1. A HM slave is a pokemon that you have on your team in-game so you dont have to teach HMs to your Pokemon. Zapdos. Gen 6 only; Dex # Nat'l # Name. Krabby can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, and Rock Smash. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. Flash is a tm so just put it on someone and then replace it if you want :p. Both learn Cut, Strength, and Rock Smash. :bidoof: Staraptor - Fly. HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machine. -Henry Louis Mencken. Do you think this gen will have one?Pokémon Games - 1st Generation (Inactive) Past Pokémon Generations Discussion . r/pokemon • Favourite gen 9 Pokémon. Or vigoroth. 2 Answers. And finally by just not having anything similar in Galar. (41/151)A striped background indicates a generation in which the move can only be obtained via event or as a special move; Bold indicates a move that gets STAB when used by Charizard; Italic indicates a move that gets STAB only when used by an evolution of Charizard; Click on the generation numbers at the top to see transfer-only moves for other generationsBibarel can actually learn all the HMs except fly. Pokemon Ultra Sun. That just leaves Flash and Fly. Edit; looking just now at his gen 7 movepool. In Generation V we've reduced the number of HMs to 6. In the core series games. hms. Same for other HMs: Fly - Flying types (duh) Strength - Normal or Fighting types. Menu Icon. Mew. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. Cut. So you no longer need to dedicate a move slot to traverse through water, or to clear those pesky obstacles that block your way. They have been since gen 5. Mt. Throwback Mode - 23rd April 2014A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves —generally those taught by. e. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. Smogon. : r/pokemon. Most of them can learn Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, and Surf. i know i can replace it but i don't want to do that with any poke on my team since most. skarmory is one of the best but. About 1 new team member per gym is the best rate to go at I find. In case anyone cares, I did the research myself and came up with the two pokemon I wanted as HM Slaves: Farfetch'd for Fly and Cut, Slowpoke for Flash, Surf, and Strength. If you can get a couple Mews, they're the best HM slaves you'll ever get. For XY Bibarel - Cut, Strength, Surf, Waterfall Talon Flame - Fly. Usable Tier. You can beat all 16 gyms in whatever order you choose, starting from any town – all without a single HM move. Total. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. Questions. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. As such, a pokemon that can carry four HMs is a. Although tailow is rarer they obviously meant it to be the main bird because it was one of Ash's first captures in that season. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. ago. Defog. However, it looks like you've got HM Cut and HM Flash tooken care of with Meowth. Wishcash. hm-slave. Annoyingly, once you get to Kanto you will need at least one HM slave in your party for a few of the gyms, as the entrance to Vermilion Gym is blocked by a cuttable tree, and reaching the volcano where Blaine's gym was relocated requires surf. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. News. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. Still had HM's on my main team in Gen III, though, like Surf and Dive. Third-gen dex has info on Pokemon and all the moves they can learn (also there's the Attackdex which lists all the moves and who can learn them) - a bit of searching got me some like Diglett, Poochyena, Kecleon. I have an Electric Safari: Dedenne, Helioptile, and Luxio. It’s also easier to catch one, too. as an ex-Serebii Mod playing. 01. If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. Michael answered: I would say the best HM Slave in FireRed would be Gyarados. Only needed twice though. I've never used HM slaves. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. Corooster is good for early game but it kind of underwhelms mid to late game with its subpar stats. It was HM05 from Generations I to III and TM70 from Generations IV to VI, as well as in Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl . . ago. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. My Team: :bidoof: Empoleon - Surf, Rock Climb. Before discussing Pokémon Kalos Crystal, it’s necessary to mention Pokémon Unova Red: a hack that replaces the entire Pokédex in the first-gen games for that of the Unova region. Quagsire can learn Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, and Surf. Comparing gen 2 to the rest of the games though makes gen 2 seem more like generation 1. What you’re really looking for in a good HM slave is one that can be found early on, can learn cut and rock smash, and doesn’t learn surf and fly. You do NOT need to teach HMs in your inventory to a pokemon in order to use them. Pokémon Crystal Clear is an open-world ROM hack, meaning there are no barriers to reaching any of the game’s major cities. Haxorus. Sandshrew is now part of the Onix tail. That’s not to say he’s bad; he’s just the least memorable for me. Cut, just a weak normal type move. Zigzagoon is also a good HM slave, and he's found in ORAS and XY. Pikachu - Generation 1 learnset. This was the first generation where I decided to try incorporating the HMs into the party rather than using a slave and it turned out pretty nice, adding some flexibility by having another well developed poke, although some with worthless moves. Tauros and persian are pretty great in gen 1. Pokémon Blue. So yeah I look at what HM moves a certain Pokémon can learn in each Gen and go from there. News. asked Nov 13, 2014 by VaporeonBlue. IMO the only 2 bad things about HGSS are 1- that some legendary Pokemon in gen 4 are locked to DPPT. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. Gen IV’s Empoleon is one of the greatest HM slaves of all time, for the Sinnoh games and throughout all the generations. 8. Covers pretty much everything you need except Surf and Waterfall. Zeimma • 9 yr. In anything post gen III they also are separated in terms of physical vs special attack, so it's not a terrible idea to have them on a well-balanced water Pokemon as you now have two great water offensive moves that can be used accordingly - surf for opponents with lower sp def and waterfall for lower. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. Z-Moves A list of Z-Moves from Pokémon Sun & Moon with their effects. Gen 2. 1 0Applying this to following pokemon in BDSP keeps the feel of the original games whilst giving good quality of life. Reply 300zxTwinTurbo •. for a series that tries so f***ing hard to sell you the idea of "pokemon are you friend and both of you help eachother" the removal of this is nonsensical from relying on your ""friends" you go to abusing mindless slaves to clear obstacles/just. Venesaurs flower is now part of Onix tail. Linoone (HG/SS Only) Linoone (and Zigzagoon) continue to reign supreme as the best and most reliable HM slaves in the entire series. It can search for possible movesets and can be used to create a new strategical combo, find a counter for a tough opponent, look for the best HM slave. I personally think this is wrong, we should instead use HM indentured servants, and after a certain amount of time free them. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Menu Icon. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. i used him in emerald by acident. Was said to be. This is the place for most…There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. Not open for further replies. Hmm cool. It has a small head with pure white eyes and a segmented body that is mostly hidden by the mushroom. Having those 2 pokemon is enough to navigate through the game. With that being said, I also don't like to shove all of them onto 2 Pokémon. 4. However, I wonder if HM slaves are allowed. It’s an idea that should have led to an incredibly memorable trainer, but for whatever. I tend to give HM moves that aren't so useful to Pokemon I don't use often, but I still don't treat them like slaves. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. Surge, Erika, Koga). HM slaves are Pokémon that are not used for battling but for completion of the game, or for getting from area to area. Header Cell - Column 2. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. it's pretty good. each member of the team gets at least one of the HMs. Whether a massive boulder impeded the path, or a simple shrub blocked a hole in a fence, HMs taught Pokémon. Pokédex; Games; TutorialsFor Pokemon Black Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "I just heard you won't need HM slaves this gen". Whirlpool. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. The fan term HSOWA is an initialism that stands for " Hot Skitty On Wailord Action ". Gen 1: No need for HM slaves, it's not like anyone learn 4 usable moves anyway in gen 1 >_> Gen 2: A lot of randoms, an Abra for Flash, some Water-type for Whirlpool and something for Cut Gen 3: Zigzagoon in RS and Gyarados in FR Gen 4: Bibarel in DPPt Gyarados and Xatu (needed something whit Fly and Flash to catch Lugia) in SS Gen 5: What do. In Generations 1-4, Oddish has a base experience yield of 78. Hidden Machines (HMs) in HeartGold/SoulSilver. Finally, let's preferentially select for Pokémon we encounter. 1K votes, 41 comments. Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. This meme points out the hilarious irony of Swampert's buff build yet weakness. An HM slave, then, is a term for a pokemon that is not used for battle but knows one or more of these moves, such that the battle performance of your other 5 pokemon is not diminished by "wasting" one of your 4 attack moves with an HM move (which are generally subpar compared to other, similar, options). EDIT: So I just noticed that Mudkip’s HM learn set is different in Gen 6. Jan 2, 2015. anyone still playing 2023? 22 posts, 11/21 6:30AM. I didn’t do much research cause I’m dumb. Even if I have a pokemon that I use more for HM's than other pokemon, I still have the courtesy to give it a nickname, give it at. But not every HM mule would. Urvilan • 2 yr. 2 HM Slaves For Both Gen 1 & 2 So I've gotten into Pokemon and i wanted to start from the ground up. Mew was my HM slave in Gen 1. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. 4. Johto Legends, a Gen 2 Rom hack, removed HM's and has a dedicated Surf system where Lapras will give you a ride on the field by simply interacting with the water. Pokemon Black Version. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. TM & HM Attacks. All are in the Fairy or Field Egg Groups, and all have English. It’s one of the few Pokémon that can learn this combo, which is what makes it both number eight on the list, and the ultimate Gen III navigator. HM slaves might be helpful for some people, but I like to play differently. Most HM moves are easily outclassed in battle (with the possible exceptions of Fly and Surf), they require to you use a Move Deleter to remove them (despite the fact they're, y'know, reusable and thus could be relearned at any time), and they force you to have Pokemon in your party who can use them (hence the development of "HM Slaves" like Bibarel to minimize the number of Pokemon with. Acc. Log in to add games to your lists. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 7 posts, 9/26 10:11AM. Skarslave. Sleep Status makes it easier to catch pokemon. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. Most HM moves are easily outclassed in battle (with the possible exceptions of Fly and Surf), they require to you use a Move Deleter to remove them (despite the fact they're, y'know, reusable and thus could be relearned at any time), and they force you to have Pokemon in your party who can use them (hence the development of "HM Slaves". Had something like 8 mons I rotated through, hence the hard decisions here Reply More posts you may like. 2 Ludicolo. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. For Nintendo 3DS on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Rather than a Gen 1 remake for the pokemon 20th anniversary. Bassmeister_ • 11 yr. I'm preparing to head to indigo plateau, and I was just wondering what pokemon everyone used as their HM Slaves. While I was doing that I realized he. Apr 7, 2010. This item article is part of Project ItemDex, a Bulbapedia. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. This page lists all the moves that Charmeleon can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. 1. HM Fly is useful as it allows you to instantly return to towns you have previously visited. When a Pokémon is holding Groundium Z and uses its Z-Power, Dig turns into Tectonic Rage and has base power 160. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. Zigzagoon/Linoone every time I play gen 3. You could also get a slowpoke or poliwag and level it up until it knows amnesia and bask in the sweet glow of +4 stat boosts since special. 1. I. zigoon best hm slave in hoeen. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. If you're not Surf or Fly (and sometimes Strength and Waterfall), you're going on an HM Slave. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. HM Slave. Accuracy. So if you transfer a pokemon from White/Black with an egg move and unlearn it, you can't get it back. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). With that being said, I also don't like to shove all of them onto 2 Pokémon. #2. Re: HM Whore Showdown! It's probably best not to use language like that in the thread/poll title. You teach them a bunch of useful tricks instead of combat abilities, and when things get too dangerous, you box them so you can have all your fighters on deck. jonosaurus • 9 yr. Venonat is an insect Pokémon with a spherical body covered in purple fur. 4. I always found the game to be more rewarding and challenging by only raising 4 or 5 pokemon on my way through my first Elite 4 clear, and having the 6th slot for a 'utility' pokemon. CryptoHey guys I am TheBattleRuler and today I am going to talk about the best hm slaves in the game. Outside of battle. Same for other HMs: Fly - Flying types (duh) Strength - Normal or Fighting types. In spin-off games: Mystery Dungeon series. Young. 5. Move 1: Strength Move 2: Rock Smash Move 3: Fly Move 4: Defog Item: Silk Scarf Ability: Pressure Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Name: Kabutops Move 1: Waterfall Move 2: Surf Move 3: Rock Climb Move 4: Cut Item: Mystic Water Ability: Swift Swim Nature: Adamant EVs: 6HP, 252ATT, 252SPD Anybody else know any 2. I've never really had an issue with HMs, my parties generally were able to learn all of the moves, and it's not like they were built to be competitive mons to begin with so it was okay to me that they learned them. If you don't, then I would suggest just keeping an HM slave as your last Pokemon. Release Date. Cut is usually the culprit and it will require the player to go back and withdraw a second HM slave for Cut. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). It can learn Cut, Fly, Defog, and Rock Smash. Select up to 4 moves then click Find Pokémon to search. The game also includes a Mega Evolution, as well as stones that you. For ORAS: Tropious - fly, cut, flash, strength/rock smash Sharpedo - Surf, Dive, Waterfall, strength/rock smash. Whirlpool. Red Blue: Incredibly slow and dopey. Reviews. Reviews. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. I much prefer giving my party pokemon HM's, especially if the HM's are useful, like Surf or Fly. A Hidden Machine (Japanese: ひでんマシン Secret Machine ), HM for short, is an item that, like a TM, is used to teach a. 5 HM Slaves Required HMs, or Hidden Machines, assisted trainers in accessing new areas. However these HMs are surf and fly, which are the most important for traversing the Hoenn map. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Used to Overcome Obstacles. ago. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. 1. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. Krabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. but with the important difference of not making them useless "HM slaves" cursed with inferior moves. Once it evolves into Crawdaunt, a ton of. Lists of TM, HM, and TR locations. 2 Answers. 1. #1: Smeargle #2: Bidoof/Bibarel #3: Zigzagoon/Linoone, with Pickup Gen 1 slave I also like is Parasect, with Cut, Dig, Leech Life. To add to my previous post: The HM mechanic is outdated. This is the place for most things Pokémon on Reddit—TV… Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit HomeI beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). So, I do use HM slaves, but not for all HMs. Bibarel was often used in 4th generation since it could learn many HMs, and I used to use Gyarados for Waterfall and Whirlpool. Pokemon Gen V is popular but has a broken base. someone who can. Bibarel can learn all. In Gen 1 you have to go to the Pokemon menu, find your cut Hm slave and use it from there. Can even learn surf, though I usually had a good water type with that bc surf was so OP. Slowbro - Surf, Psychic, Flash, Teleport. Bibarell is the ultimate HM slave. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.